Poll: Basics of C++, yes or no

Ich1994 · (This post was last modified: 01-01-2013, 20:53 by Ich1994.)

So i want to teach you guys on the Forum how to programm a simple game from scratch.
Of course you can learn Programm Designs/Patterns

But i need the above informations first ( in the poll)

**Nekochan** · 01-01-2013, 20:56

I voted yes because I never did it lol

***SuperNovaAO*** · 01-01-2013, 20:58

http://kldp.org/files/c+in+21+days.pdf

Ich1994 · (This post was last modified: 01-01-2013, 20:59 by Ich1994.)

You know Basics = C++ Basics like what is an integer and shit Tongue

@SuperNovaAO

Not good to learn C++. Trust me. I started with that PDF and gave up.

***SuperNovaAO*** · 01-01-2013, 20:59

Then to upgrade to C++ read this:
http://www.desy.de/gna/html/cc/Tutorial/node9.htm

Done. Pr0h4xx0rz is born

**kokole** · 01-01-2013, 21:00

Actually C++ is easy but it takes time to understand it.

Ich1994 · 01-01-2013, 21:00

(01-01-2013, 20:58)SuperNovaAO Wrote: http://kldp.org/files/c+in+21+days.pdf

In every good written C++ book you will read:
If you know C FORGET IT COMPLETE.
Don't learn C if you want to learn C++. Worst idea

***SuperNovaAO*** · (This post was last modified: 01-01-2013, 21:05 by SuperNovaAO.)

(01-01-2013, 21:00)Ich1994 Wrote:
(01-01-2013, 20:58)SuperNovaAO Wrote: http://kldp.org/files/c+in+21+days.pdf

In every good written C++ book you will read:
If you know C FORGET IT COMPLETE.
Don't learn C if you want to learn C++. Worst idea

Okay then, you are the pro.

Now don't get me wrong. I like the idea that there are actually people on here that are willing to use a REAL UNMANAGED programming language (unlike all .NET stuff) but using an unmanaged language means you actually need to know about system internals to get efficient code. That means stuff like data management, pointers, you name it.

In VC++ (which most kids use) you don't need to know that because engineers at Microsoft implemented easy to use functions for that -> you will never really use and understand pointers. You have no idea why an operation takes a certain time to complete. You have no idea how to make your program run faster.

So learn C(90).

Ich1994 · 01-01-2013, 21:21

(01-01-2013, 21:01)SuperNovaAO Wrote:
(01-01-2013, 21:00)Ich1994 Wrote:
(01-01-2013, 20:58)SuperNovaAO Wrote: http://kldp.org/files/c+in+21+days.pdf

In every good written C++ book you will read:
If you know C FORGET IT COMPLETE.
Don't learn C if you want to learn C++. Worst idea

Okay then, you are the pro.

Now don't get me wrong. I like the idea that there are actually people on here that are willing to use a REAL UNMANAGED programming language (unlike all .NET stuff) but using an unmanaged language means you actually need to know about system internals to get efficient code. That means stuff like data management, pointers, you name it.

In VC++ (which most kids use) you don't need to know that because engineers at Microsoft implemented easy to use functions for that -> you will never really use and understand pointers. You have no idea why an operation takes a certain time to complete. You have no idea how to make your program run faster.

So learn C(90).

I'm meaning ISO C++98/03. Didn't read the new functions for c++0x though.

C++ is still unmanaged.

I'm using VC++. But i am coding in "real" C++ so it can be compiled with GCC also. i am just using their IDE.

Yes, C++/CLI is shitty.

Poll: Basics of C++, yes or no You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
From the very Basic	85.71%	6	85.71%
"Advanced" - Basics like Pointers	14.29%	1	14.29%
Start to teach how to programm a game	0%	0	0%
Total		7 vote(s)	100%

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